The Waltons star, Michael Learned, 87, recalls A-list 'mean girls' in rare public appearance


Emmy winner Michael who has continued to work into her 80s


Michael Learned as Olivia Walton on "The Empty Nest".  Image dated June 16, 1978.  (Photo by CBS via Getty Images) © CBS via Getty Images
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Michael Learned, the legendary actress who starred as Olivia Walton in the 1970s drama The Waltons, made a rare public appearance in late 2025, taking part in the Still Here Hollywood podcast with Steve Kmetko.

The 87-year-old looked glamorous in a peach shirt paired with gold necklaces and gold hooped earrings, as she wore her white hair back in a sleek ponytail.

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Michael, an Emmys winner who has continued to work into her 80s, spoke to podcast host Steve about one moment in her career when she found herself in an elevator with two "well-known" actresses who were "so damn rude".

"In my memoir, if I ever get it written, I will name them," she joked, before she went on to share the full story.

Michael Learned at The 25th Primetime Emmy Awards on May 20, 1973 at Shubert Theatre, Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Disney General Entertainment Content via Getty Images)© Disney General Entertainment Con
Michael Learned at the 1973 Emmy Awards

"They knew who I was," said Michael. "They started talking about that show. 'You know, with all the kids in blue jeans and bare feet.' They were making fun of me, and I didn't have the chutzpah, or whatever, to call them out on it, so I stood there, in horrible humiliation and said nothing."

Michael admitted that she did have regrets over staying silent, and that she often considered ways she could have "given it back in some way".

"I still haven't gotten over it, obviously because I'm talking about it, but they were just so rude," she concluded.

A celebration of the 50th anniversary of CBS's history in radio and television, featuring a weeklong series of specials broadcast. The specials are titled CBS: On The Air. Initial broadcast on Sunday, March 26, 1978. Pictured is the cast of cast of the Waltons. From left is Mary McDonough, Will Greer, Ellen Corby, Kami Cotler, Michael Learned, Ralph Waite, Richard Thomas. (Photo by CBS via Getty Images)© CBS via Getty Images
The cast of The Waltons in 1978: Mary McDonough, Will Greer, Ellen Corby, Kami Cotler, Michael Learned, Ralph Waite, Richard Thomas

Born on April 9, 1939, Michael starred in the family sitcom The Waltons between 1972 and 1979, appearing in almost 170 episodes. 

The show was known for its wholesome content, which was at odds with Michael's real life. In the early 2000s, Michael revealed that before being cast as Olivia, she had "hit rock bottom" and had become an alcoholic. She became sober in 1977, after five years on the show.

Michael Learned attends Honor: In Their Words - Stories Commemorating The 50th Anniversary Of The End Of The Vietnam War at Hollywood Legion Theater on March 18, 2023 in Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Unique Nicole/Getty Images)© Getty Images
Michael has kept working throughout her 80s

Asked by Steve to recall her first day on the set, Michael did not hold back, sharing: "My memory was that I was probably hungover, for one."

Michael also told Steve that her first day on set was eye-opening because she "had been doing theatre for so long that I'd totally forgotten that you were supposed to hit marks, [or] that you could kill a soundman’s hearing by screaming or making a loud noise".

"I was just like an elephant in an antique shop," she said, admitting it was humbling to realize "these kids seemed to know what they were doing".

Michael (R) praised the cast for helping her overcome 'rock bottom'© Getty Images
Michael (R) praised the cast for helping her overcome 'rock bottom'

However, "these kids" went on to help Michael turn her life around, admitting that they "went out of their way to make me feel welcome, and that was it, it was like a whole new world for me."

Michael has won four Primetime Emmys over the course of her acting career, and continues to work today, including most recently in Netflix's Monster, as Catherine Dahmer.

Her first husband was Peter Donat, whom she married at the age of 17 in 1956. The couple welcomed three children before their divorce in 1972, before she found fame as Olivia, the matriarch of the Walton family. She later married Glenn Chadwick and William Parker, but it was John Doherty with whom she found enduring love, tying the knot in 1991 until he died in 2025.

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